What’s The Best Cloaker? « Direct Response Marketing

Aug 14 2011

What’s The Best Cloaker?

By Rich Gorman 19 Comments

I’m looking for your insight on the best cloaker out there and why…

Or custom?

A lot of guys have asked me what the best tool is to get ads approved on Google, FB, etc. and keep track of multiple campaigns. Please provide your feedback.

http://www.facebook.com/sohantanna Sohan Tanna

They may cloak the refs but neither will cloak where the user lands. IMO you need to go custom.
- http://www.DirectResponse.net Rich Gorman
  
  from the responses we’ve seen you are spot on Sohan
Earl Grey

Both of the above until you outgrow them and need to build a custom solution.
- http://www.DirectResponse.net Rich Gorman
  
  any other recommendations?
Leon Apel

The tool isn’t as important as the strategy. I’m not recommending this legally but if someone was to hypothetically do this, opening multiple accounts with any simple cloaker is the real answer.
- http://www.DirectResponse.net Rich Gorman
  
  thanks for your input Leon
Vlad

Tracking202 and Linktrackr are better on the tracking side than cloaking. Both have really basic cloaking scripts that can’t be trusted.

For any serious advertiser that needs cloaking I recommend a custom made solution.
- http://www.DirectResponse.net Rich Gorman
  
  Vlad thx for the heads up – would you make a recommendation as to where an advertiser could have a custom made solution?
  - Vlad
    
    I can’t say I have a recommendation. For me, I gave this project to one of my developers, started with a basic algo that included only IP redirection and expanded from that. One tip I can give is the more data you have, the more patterns you will find and the better your cloaking script will be.
Anonymous

As far as getting whatever you want approved on FB, Google and the like, not sure if this is what you are talking about but it’s worked for me in the past.

If IP = Google or Facebook, redirect to the page you want them to see.

Not too sure about Google anymore but as of a couple months ago for Facebook
66.220.144.0 – 66.220.159.255

69.63.176.0 – 69.63.191.255

69.171.224.0 – 69.171.255.255

74.119.76.0 – 74.119.79.255

173.252.64.0 – 173.252.127.255

204.15.20.0 – 204.15.23.255

What I usually did back when I looked at this, and you can actually still do probably is submit a lot of ads that you do not intend on actually running or spending any money on and point them to a page and record all the hits and IPs that come in to those pages from the ad reviewers. Once you have an IP you can then do a search and find out the entire block that that IP is in like those Facebook examples, I see an ad reviewer come in at 66.220.148.100 or whatever, I look up the block find that it belongs 66.220.144.0 – 66.220.159.255 so I list that entire block in my redirection script. Make 50-100 ads, record all the reviewer IPs, lookup the blocks, redirect all the blocks with your custom redirect script. Also, don’t just submit like 50 ads at once, you need to spread them out over different times so you get a good idea of all the blocks. If you submit 20 ads at once they will probably all get reviewed by the same reviewer or same “location”. I would say do 50-100 over the course of a week, submitting about 10 ads spread across the day or something to get what you need.

I still see facebook and google ads redirecting to fake news sites for biz ops and diet products and I’m pretty sure this is how they are doing it.
- http://www.DirectResponse.net Rich Gorman
  
  NIck – call my mobile…I forgot that you’re a programming genius.
- http://www.directresponse.net David Polykoff
  
  Hey Nick. Dave Polykoff from Direct Response Agency. I really like your intake on cloaking man! This is a technique I have been trying to wrap my head around and study.
  
  Why don’t you shoot me an email. I’d love to get in contact with you and discuss your techniques to cloaking with you further. My email is dave@directresponse.net. Talk soon!
- Jay
  
  God damn, I’m hiring some Chinese hackers to do this crap for me lol
tylerf

This is the best non-custom cloaker out there. http://www.wplinkengine.com/
It can cloak based on a few different ways, IPs, referrers, ARIN, user agents and etc.

The only downside is it’s a wordpress plugin. =)
- http://www.DirectResponse.net Rich Gorman
  
  thx T!
WayneDog

Getting away with cloaking a smaller traffic source can be done with IP or Ref Cloaking for a while but trust me when I tell you none of the solutions listed here will last very long with large companies like Facebook and Google. We spent the better part of the last 3 years refining our software/system, it’s not publicly available for good reason but reach out to me to discuss Rich.
- Rooky
  
  Hey rich, do you work with noipfraud?
Jonathan

by far the best cloaker out there, and I have used most of them is noipfraud.

I know they’re not taking on any new clients presently and only work on referrals but if you can get your foot in the door their system is fantastic.

Just to echo what you said in another post, I disagree with cloaking for non compliant landing pages / offers. I do though cloak every single campaign I run on Adcenter and Adwords primarily to increase the QS. I don’t have any keywords less than an 8 in either of them while most of them at 9s & 10s, which I know would not be the case if I didn’t cloak.

Used wisely they are fantastic tools, I just fear that the majority of people who use them for “evil” will ruin it for the rest of us!
tom thomas

Hi.

We have already developed cloaker for adcenter, adwords , it is running from past Two year without any issues. we can immediately hand over to you…

i can provide you a demo link of cloaker i have developed …

add me in skype : tomthomas.0129

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